Rastafari Needs Help?
Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2001

( JAH Truth ) Dear Rastas,

Greetings in the name of his imperial majesty, king rastafari i, who dwells forever in our spirits, as does satan, fire burn satan. Listen all those who are reading, king rastafari died on the cross for us! And whoever gives his sins to god, in the name of his son, he shall recieve the gift of righteousness, and shall work for heaven eternal. And never see hell! Thats why i, jah truth, who is living on earth in sodom and gommorah, and watching every wicked thing that the beasts of the earth are doing to the world, gathering their recruits for hell, I come as a shephard. I come in the name of christ. To speak the truth, and whoever puts faith in christs truth shall live forever. The lord god makes me speak no lie towards his precious stones. All rasman and raswoman, rastafari works in i, as bishop in the united states of america. I come to gather the flock, noah gathering the people before the flood, but in the second advent jah come with fire! The almighty really made sodom and gommorah hell, the fire is hot in the states, making the devil tempt the angels, all day, fire burn! We must build the temple of god in america! We must come together, physically and spiritually, and build the temple of god, in america, and whoever enters into the temple, will be saved from the soon to come destruction of the almighty god, jah! Rastafari!

I am in florida. North east florida. Many of you are far away from me. What I am saying is if we all come together, and buy our own land, and build our houses and set up camp in one location, we can have the house of the true god! King rastafari i, built here, or whatever location we come together to do! They did it in jamaica! They did it in africa! And kenya! Lets do it in america! God conquers the devil! This is the indians land, but really belongs to the righteous! Let us come together so we cant see no sin! We will just see heaven! Lets do it rasts! Lets make america paradise while we can! Lets do it, we can recruit people day and night, saving people from hell to come, or when they die! Rastafari! Jah!

"Come my sisters and brothers, motivate our mothers and fathers, we got works to do, works to do, works to dooooo!"

Let us please do this now, and not stall! Let us do it now! I am poor, I will sell my posessions for rastafari! Lets make a rasta camp or something, so we can be saved, and just stay far from the wicked! We dont need devils around us! We just need love! Which is jah! God! All people, repent to rastafari for all yours sins, what you did last night, or last week, repent! Please rastas, lets warn the united states what is to come! We need a movement or something! We need to warn! Unless you are afarid to die for what you believe in! You afraid of the devil? Conquer the devil! Work for rastafari! Face the truth!!!!!!

Jah rastafari! Is the almighty, who knows your imaginations, put recieve him, and recieve heaven eternal, all people, living right and happy forever, no bills to pay, just herbs and fruit to eat, and praising jah before his throne forever!!!!!!!!
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( LUBA ZEBBY ) Thank you so much for posting this Topic of Rasta WORK. I also am a firm believer that We as a RastafarI Collective that chant down babylon must look and listen to what King Haile Selassie I, Honorable Marcus Garvey, Robert N. Marley, Peter Tosh, Bunny Wailer, Mutabaruka, Isreal Vibes...all them are talking about the Liberation of AFRICANS.....Rastafari is a Freedom Fighter for Mama Africa and so InI Must also work.

The Uhuru Movement is putting much needed financial resources back into the African Communtiy, into African populated schools, African communities get Health Food Stores and health care.

There are NO Race Riots in Beverley Hills
Revervations are NOT RESORTS!

so why are the white communities so rich and the african communities so poor?

why do African men go to prison for 30 years for stealing while White men get 12 years for Serial Rape???

ALL YOU WHO SING ALONG TO SONGS LIKE AFRICA UNITE AND BLACK MAN REDEMPTION, PLEASE PUT DOWN YOUR SPLIFF AND GET UP, STAND UP AND WORK! AS BOB SINGS EVERY DAY IS WORK!

Uhuru!
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( Akin-Rastafari ) Is your proposal up for discussion with other Africans or is it a 'done deal' exclusive for "Rastafarian" comments and support?
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( LUBA ZEBBY ) Which proposal?

This message board is called RastafarI Speaks if I am not miss-taken. I personally well-come the input of progressive people but I also know talk is talk....we as a collective must also Do.

So if you please post your thoughts.
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( Akin-Rastafari ) ( JAH Truth's plan or idea. )

The problem is, when one person or group has an idea and that person is so convinced it is right, he or she does not like discussing it. Then, they accuse others of not supporting the idea. I hope this is not the case.

If you start with the notion that by setting up a group in a location the rest of the picture will fall into place, then history bears wittiness to that failure. Simply because if people cannot agree on a definition on who qualifies to be a Rastafarian, then all you would have is an array of impoverished people coming together with the hope and intent of fulfilling their own material gain, then as soon as there are funds in the account, infighting will take place.

Even with a 'semi-defined' people, we are left with the examples of the Jews in Israel and their ongoing conflict because of they trying to defend an ideal that makes no sense to others. We have other examples of this in Africa, Europe and India.

If the wider community does not agree with your policies and have little or no understanding of the group, they would fear such an organization and would do all in their power to ensure it fails.

Further to this if you are firm about setting up a separate lifestyle that the wider public does not understand and appreciate, it will have to be defended with military power and then you are back to square one, just like everyone else who tried to live apart and are having conflicts all over the world.

Even if a group 'succeeds' in setting up a different social model, they would still be under the jurisdiction of international policies and laws and as such would be alienated and or have many legal battles.

I could say more but I don't want to be too long.

Do you think people could discuss this some more?
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( LUBA ZEBBY ) ++ Simply because if people cannot agree on a definition on who qualifies to be a Rastafarian ++

I want to know why people look for Validation of being a "rastafarian" in other people? It is NOT the Next Man that Determines weather one is or is Not a Rasta. So I dont ask others to accept me or approve of me simply because I am not here for them but for H.I.M Selassie I.

+++ If the wider community does not agree with your policies and have little or no understanding of the group, they would fear such an organization of people and would do all in their power to ensure it fails. +++

The "Wider Community" is Curruptable and Blind. This wider community loves Oprah, Mercedes and MTV....its so sad. Yes they have a REASON to Fear because they KNOW they are Brainwashed and this thought that Does not A-line with their own must be wrong.

Failure is up to you. Martin Luther King was Killed, Peter Tosh was killed, Malcolm X also Killed...but I know their name, why? how? the struggle continues and as Long as I have breath I will fight babylon mentallity.

+++ Further to this if you are firm about setting up a separate lifestyle that the wider public does not understand and appreciate, it will have to be defended with military power and then you are back to square one, just like everyone else who tried to live apart and are having conflicts all over the world. +++

Yes Back to Square One is True, but why do we keep trying? because the Wickedness that rules the masses is just that, Wicked. You can Fool some people some of the Time but You CANT fool ALL the People all the time. I choose not to be a fool.

+++ Even if a group 'succeeds' in setting up a different social model, they would still be under the jurisdiction of international policies and laws and as such would be alienated and or have many legal battles. +++

ABSOLUTLY! many Battles is what it is all about!, otherwise I might as well bend over and give them my ass for a good punking.

++Do you think people could discuss this some more?++

I am NO Different, I want people to see my side and Agree with me and Not Argue against me and Not Challenge me. Just like the next man that does not like those that dont agree with him.

I will try but I AM Partial to my Views and my life and the Struggle of AFRICAN People.

RastafarI Worked for the Liberation of AFRICANS and we as rastas MUST do the SAME!
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( Akin-Rastafari ) Conscious people work for the liberation of anyone and all who seek assistance and can either learn or show the deep connections in our cultural ways.

I know that people who do not share common values cannot cooperate and be successful as a people and would spend most time squabbling.

>>> I want to know why people look for Validation of being a "rastafarian" in other people? It is NOT the Next Man that Determines weather one is or is Not a Rasta. So I dont ask others to accept me or approve of me simply because I am not here for them but for H.I.M Selassie I. <<<

That is an unfortunate corruption of the meaning of 'a definition' and you completely misunderstand the purpose of defining one's space.

Defining space is the only way you can show your entitlement to a space. Without definition it is common property and cannot be the exclusive domain of any one group.
It has nothing to do with looking for validation in other people.

If you are building a house and cannot show or map out the boundaries then all can encroach, but with clear definable boundaries, you are claiming your space. However if no boundaries are necessary (this is the ideal) then there is nothing to associate around and no need for a separate group or space. How are you going to build the house?

>>>> Yes they have a REASON to Fear because they KNOW they are Brainwashed <<<

A person cannot know they are brainwashed, they could be aware something is wrong and unaware how to improve, but to know one is brainwashed calls for the person to be conscious and such a person would know he or she was brainwashed, (not is brainwashed.)

>>> Yes Back to Square One is True, but why do we keep trying? because the Wickedness that rules the masses is just that, Wicked. You can Fool some people some of the Time but You CANT fool ALL the People all the time. I choose not to be a fool. <<<

But sir, you will be a fool if you do not give these ideas careful consideration. It is foolish to do the same thing, the same way, over and over and expect a different result. You have not proposed anything different to what has been tried.

>>> ABSOLUTLY! many Battles is what it is all about!, otherwise I might as well bend over and give them my ass for a good punking. <<<

Carefully defining ones plans and putting them up for scrutiny by those who share similar objectives is the best way to engage a battle. It helps to examine what was tried and learn from the mistakes. History is important here.

>>> RastafarI Worked for the Liberation of AFRICANS and we as rastas MUST do the SAME! <<<

It is non-Rastafarians who first engaged the struggle for the liberation of Africans and the modern Rastafarian movement was born out of the struggles of non-Rastafarians. Some Rastafarians did and do struggle for the liberation of others, but the order was and is African first.

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